A most interesting interview. It is good that Singapore have people like Philip Yeo who focuses on building innovation in Singapore. I am rather discomforted at his jokes though:
“At the end of the interview, he strides out briskly to keep his lunch appointment with a group of newly returned A*Star scholars - new slaves, he jokes. As they exchange greetings outside his office, he asks them: ‘Who built the Great Wall of China? Who built the Sphinx and the pyramids?’ Before they can reply, he chuckles: ‘Slaves! Slaves! So, remember, slaves are very important!’
February 25, 2006 Saturday
SECTION: RAFFLES CONVERSATION
LENGTH: 1751 words
HEADLINE: The scholar groomer;
His may be the vision behind Singapore’s Jurong Island petrochemical hub and the Biopolis, but the inimitable Philip Yeo tells ANNA TEO his legacy will be solely and entirely the scholars he is moulding
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YOU can barely see the glass top of the long table in Philip Yeo’s meeting room next to his office. It is covered almost entirely with mounds and mounds of paper, files, books and paraphernalia - notably, laminated copies of news clippings on A*Star and the biomedical sciences, including an entire recent TheStraits Times Forum page on the debate about GPA (grade point average) requirements for A*Star scholars.
‘This may look like chaos, but there is system to it,’ he says of the piles on the table. ‘Everything about what I do is in some newspaper or other article. You want to know about A*Star, it’s all here, plus all the scoldings, it’s all there, plus calling the boys wimps, here,’ he adds, picking up various files and chuckling. ‘I’m a repository.’
Over the next couple of hours, he is to dart to and fro around the room, and from table to his computer next door and the adjacent library, to retrieve a poster or document or book from his shelves - systematically categorised and chock-full of hardbacks on subjects from evolution to Persia - even as he launches into a range of topics, from scholars and scientists to democracy, corruption and, yes, ancient Persia.
Civil servant extraordinaire in more ways than one, Mr Yeo indeed could never be a pen-pushing bureaucrat behind a desk. Ever on the go, to keep occupied he needs various side jobs, or ‘hobbies’ as he calls them - over and above his main work, which is currently as chairman of A*Star (Agency for Science, Technology and Research) and Singapore’s biomedical science architect. And hobbies for him mean nothing less than mega-scale projects like building a resort in Bintan or overseeing an industrial park in Ho Chi Minh City or, lately, chairing the board of stem cell research firm ES Cell International, a company he created several years ago.
Not one to flinch from speaking his mind or standing his ground in the face of criticism, he has over the years also drawn more than his share of controversy, famously over his stance on bond-breakers, on the need for PhD training in R&D work, for branding Singapore boys ‘whiners and wimps’ and, more recently, for A*Star’s rigorous scholarship standards.
Last month, while preparing to speak to local university students, he wanted to title his talk ‘Do You Really Want To Be A Test-Tube Cleaner, Part Two’, to continue the debate he started three years ago when he said that, without further PhD training, Singapore science graduates would be good only for washing test-tubes in the laboratory. But he was advised by some of his young scholars that using the same controversial headline might just divert attention from the essence of his message.
Clearly, the indomitable Mr Yeo - who will turn 60 in October - has no qualms revisiting contentious old ground, not when it comes to issues he believes strongly and passionately in. Like why Singapore must produce more of its own PhD pool if it is to move up to high value-added R&D industries; the value of scholarships as an investment in Singapore’s future; and why public-funded scholars must be held to exacting standards.
‘Before I came here, there was no emphasis on PhD education. What did I do? I came out with a statement - bachelor’s degree, wash test-tubes. You go to my labs, all the PhDs are Chinese . . . Singaporeans are all test-tube cleaners.’
As for the fracas over GPA standards, 85 per cent of A*Star’s 108 National Science Scholarship holders who sat for their exams in Fall 2005 achieved GPA scores of 3.8 and above, or First Class Honours.
Mr Yeo, who knows his scholars - their backgrounds, interests and all - almost like his own kids, cites among the girls one who got a 3.997 GPA - a whisker short of the perfect 4.0 score.
‘You know why 3.997? She got A-minus for ballroom dancing,’ he notes. Another scholar also just missed a perfect GPA because of, this time, Greek mythology. ‘So why are Singaporeans kao-peh-kao-bu?’ he bristles, half-chuckling, using a Hokkien term for rant and rave.
And far from churning out one-dimensional book-smart academic nerds, his scholars are all-rounders with varied interests from diving and kick-boxing to mythology, and yes, ballroom dancing. Strong Type-A characters, just like his son, says Mr Yeo: ‘Can study and still got time to go play pool and chase girls.’
Eugene Yeo, 28 - who did his PhD in brain and cognitive science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology under a Lee Kuan Yew Scholarship, and is now a research fellow at the Salk Institute in California - is, like father, a hyper over-achiever. On his website he lists his interests as marathons, triathlons, sailing, photography, piano, pottery, sketching, rollerblading and skiing.
The senior Mr Yeo asks: ‘So do I lower my (scholarship) standards to please the critics? Nothing doing! It’s not their money!’
His is a well-known track record through Singapore’s defence, technology and economic development sectors, but Mr Yeo probably has his own list of ‘work highs’. As logistics director in the Ministry of Defence in the 1970s, he and his team bought computers for Mindef by ‘clandestine means’, so as to get around some government procurement red tape. ‘In the tender submissions to MOF (Ministry of Finance), we checked and avoided the use of the word ‘computer’ in every line and paragraph.’
So minicomputers were described as ’small business machines’, IBM mainframes as ‘intermediate business machines’, while a mini supercomputer was labelled ‘calculating machine’.
The National Computer Board that he would go on to set up in 1981 eventually equipped all ministries, government departments and junior colleges with ‘now legal’ computers.
At the Economic Development Board, where he became chairman in 1986 in the wake of a recession, he launched, along with a monthly road show in key overseas markets, an eye-catching advertisement in the international press: ‘Who would be mad enough to invest in Singapore in a recession?’
With the multi-billion investment dollars that rolled in over the next decade sprouted Singapore’s semiconductor and wafer fab industries. And in the mid-1990s, the idea of creating an offshore chemicals and petrochemicals hub - now Jurong Island - was conceived as he hovered in a helicopter over seven south-western islands on a trip home from Indonesia’s Karimum Island.
Incidentally, the aerial view - by copter flights or by satellite images - is how Mr Yeo likes to track the progress of his projects as they take shape and form over months.
‘So when people talk of helicopter view, I do that every day lah,’ he says, reaching out for several large framed, some poster-mounted, photographs of various stages of Jurong Island and the Biopolis in the making. ‘I believe in pictures! It’s hard to see on the ground. So all my planning is based on these aerial pictures. Maps are not the same.’
But, for all his work in defence, computerisation, technology, the biomedical sciences and all, the ‘job’ he deems most significant is the grooming of talent and future leaders through scholarships. ‘People don’t understand. My most important job, which I supervise personally, is this,’ he says, holding up an A*Star scholarship poster.
‘I’ve done weapons, I’ve done semiconductors, so what? The most important part of my work is not the Biopolis building, Fusionpolis - all these are infrastructure, anybody can do it. At the end of the day, these are fixtures, over time they can become obsolete. But this is the most important of A*Star’s work,’ he emphasises, referring to the scholarships.
Mr Yeo, himself a Colombo Plan engineering scholar and Harvard MBA holder, also awarded scholarships in his previous organisations - Mindef, NCB, the former Singapore Technologies Group, Sembawang - but A*Star’s will be the biggest scale yet, and going all the way to PhD too.
The aim is to produce 1,000 PhD researchers, and to date, more than 500 have been identified, all of them hand-picked by Mr Yeo.
‘These 1,000 kids - 10 to 15 years from now, they’ll be all over Singapore, they will run this place. Even if just 20 per cent of them make it, the top 200, they will go anywhere, need not be science. They could be running the universities, they could be politicians, they could be running EDB, anything, why not ? What I’m trying to create is the multiplier effect. For the legacy is the people and not the buildings, not even the industries, who cares?’
He cites people like George Yeo, Lim Hng Kiang, Peter Ho, Tan Chin Nam, David Lim, Lim Swee Say, Ko Kheng Hwa, Lim Neo Chian, all now in leadership positions in the political or public sectors.
‘They were all my officers in Mindef, from the day they started work, they grew up with me. I can give you a long list of slaves,’ he chuckles. ‘So it’s not all my work per se, I leave a lot of these slaves behind who continue to work. I’m the only perm sec (permanent secretary) in the whole of Singapore government to have collected a lot of people, for better or for worse.’
He adds: ‘Whatever industry I do, the most important job is people (development). So the most important legacy is not the biomedical sciences or physical sciences, at the end of the day. It’s to train the next generation of people.’ The challenge in managing talent, he says, is how to keep them focused. As for himself, ‘I can do 10 things at the same time and yet still compartmentalise them’, he declares. ‘My key competences are in always generating new ideas, that’s it, and I look for people to do. Then when things get into trouble, I kachau (poke in) a bit.’
But everyone is different, and he recognises that few, if any, are like him, in terms of personality, temperament, management style, work philosophy, vision and all. ‘As I said, I’m not indispensable but I am irreplaceable.’ For that matter, so is everyone else, he points out, because there is no one else exactly and entirely like oneself, short of a clone.
There is a difference between succession and replacement, he adds. ‘Why should people object and say - oh, Philip Yeo’s ambitious and arrogant . . . huh?? Fundamentally, I can’t stand fools,’ he laughs, breaking into one of his many big guffaws.
At the end of the interview, he strides out briskly to keep his lunch appointment with a group of newly returned A*Star scholars - new slaves, he jokes. As they exchange greetings outside his office, he asks them: ‘Who built the Great Wall of China? Who built the Sphinx and the pyramids?’ Before they can reply, he chuckles: ‘Slaves! Slaves! So, remember, slaves are very important!’